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so. but as you can see, the square is once again filled with several hundred people who are here. they've lit candles into the night. and this will probably go on late into the night despite the fact that authorities have asked people not to gather in large numbers for security reasons. our senior international correspondent clarissa ward is joining us as well. you've been talking to people throughout the day. it's been an extraordinary day here in paris. >> absolutely, anderson. there's an air of schizophrenia almost. earlier today i was talking to people who were saying on friday we wept, on saturday we mourned, but today on sunday we came out the to the streets, we're determined to go back to our daily life, determined to go to cafes and concerts and go on and enjoy all the things and all the cultural things, parts of life that french people enjoy. there was a much larger crowd here just a few hours ago. they were quietly lighting
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candles, remembering the dead, and then all of a sudden in a split second, there was absolute panic. quite simply, i haven't seen anything like it in europe before people just began to stampede. they were running down the street. women were shrieking. people were saying that there have been gunshots though it didn't appear there actually had been. we saw, you know, women grabbing their children, pushing strollers, desperately running from what they thought were their lives. policemen suddenly flooding the streets heavily armed, waving guns at us, telling us to clear the streets. i kept asking them what's the problem, please explain, what's going on, and it was clear throughout this scenario that honestly the police were just as fryattened as the people were and were just as confused, just as panicked. there's a sense there are other attackers out there. and it really was such a sharp contrast to this defiance that we've seen, people who i had spoken to said we can't be afraid but a if we're afraid
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than they have won. but it's clear, anderson, that people here are afraid, that life here has changed in some fundamental way. and there's a real sense of difference. you know, we've talked a lot about "charlie hebdo." and after "charlie hebdo" within moments there was a hashtag je suis charlie. there was a take-away the french people knew how to respond collectively. with this crisis, with this attack, we haven't really seen that yet, that sense of people being galvanizedtogetherbya common theme, a common understanding of how to approach this, how to respond to this, and how to move on with their lives. >> clarissa, thank you. if you are just joining us at the top of the hour, want to give you the overall picture of where things stand. there are a lot of moving parts to this as christiane said, a number of investigations both here in france and also in belgium. in belgium arrests have been
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made, also an international arrest warrant has now been issued or se issued. our senior international correspondent is there live. start with the international arrest warrant. who are they looking for and what is this person -- where does this person fit into the larger plot according to authorities? >> well, authorities are saying that it was one of the two cars used in the attack, the one that was at the bataclap attack, a box voel voe that led them to brussels and it led them to the three brothers they say were united in this act of terror. one died in the attack, one was arrested yesterday, and one is now being sought through this international arrest warrant. there are so many moving pieces but i think that is a reflection of how complex the net that binds the belgian and paris
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angle of this terror plot is because it isn't just limited to this one attack. it's one that goes all the way back in time to january of this year, not just the "charlie hebdo" attack, where the man suspected by intelligence officials of providing weapons to the attackers was believed to reside here but also the thwarted terror plot in belgium. we're seeing surprising responses from the belgian authorities. the superior mipster has now publicly said that belgium is the weak link in terms of the war on terror here, that the fact that per capita so many belgians, the most in europe go to fight in syria, is providing this unacceptable freedom of movement for jihadists and freedom of radicalization, anderson. >> so, let's follow the vehicle evidence because it's really become critical. as you said, that vehicle found outside bataclan led authorities to belgium to those three brothers. there's also a vehicle which was
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found later in a paris suburb that had some kalashnikovs inside it as i understand, i believe three kalashnikovs inside, believed to be a getaway vehicle that was driven by someone probably used in the attacks against several of the restaura restaurants. that person, whoever drove it, believed to be still at large. did that vehicle also have belgian plates? >> reporter: well, that has still not been clarified. at the moment we only have two vehicles with belgian plates. the volkswagen polo and a seat which was used at the site of the other attack. that third people police are not yet confirmed. given the broader planning stage seems to have been from here in the moneighborhood. >> there was another vehicle being driven by three people that was found -- that was stopped, pulled over as they
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were going back to belgium. is that correct? >> reporter: yes. and that was the -- that was the man who was believed to have been driving the volkswagen polo initial aat that attack. the two others who were with him who are belgian residents but french nationals, bringing it back to this nibd neighborhood here. what we've been hearing from people is this is something that's been going on for so long that almost now for a lot of them, as afraid of they are a the police scrutiny -- and standing here, it's been sirens and police officers, even though the actual house entrance phase of this operation seems to have been stalled for now. but for so many of them, they welcome the police presence because there are ties of all of them being tied. but molen beak seems to be where all of the parts of this attack come back home to. >> nima elbagir, thank you. a number of people in custody at this hour but this international
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arrest warrant has been issued and potentially more people out there. >> worth repeating again that three of these people who we've just been talking about, three of the attackers including the one for whom there's an arrest warrant out are french but with belgian residence. belgium is the big link in this. one of the attackers was french born and lived here in france and we know some of them did come from overseas. one of the many victims was american. >> we're learning more and more about the victims, both the french -- and frankly many people from a number of countries were killed. but an american who was spending a semester studying in paris. >> she died of that explosion of gunfire while eating at a restaurant with friend. she's joining us now from california with more about it. actually, cnn's paul verquana snshgs joining us. tell us what happened to that poor young student and what her family are going through now. what have you been able to find
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out? >> reporter: well, what we understand, as you pointed out, she was out for a friday night in paris, enjoying it with friends and taking in a meal with a couple other colleagues from cal state long beach university here where i'm standing now. and basically like so many people she was just an absolute innocent victim of a massacre. her family and her friends all telling us that she was the light of their lives, that she would light people up with her smile. and on this campus quite a reputation as a gifted and talented industrial design student. in fact, an award-winning student. and they said that her future was just so incredibly bright. and of course they're using words such as saddened and heartbreak and the rest as they consider what happened here to noemi gonzalez. christiane and anderson? >> so sad. and in the coming days no doubt we hope to learn as much as we can about others who lost their lives and bring you their
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stories as well. it's important to focus on those whose lives were lost. but as you know, we have also been focusing on the people who perpetrated these mass killings because this investigation is still very much ongoing. police are trying to get as much information they can and are obviously looking for information from anybody who may know thee people or may have any idea about their whereabouts, particularly with this international arrest warrant out. we'll take a short break. i was on the bus and i couldn't stop streaming. i don't even want to think about the overages. it's okay. t-mobile now has binge on, so you can stream all the movies, tv and sports you want without using your data. it's like...free. so it's okay that i binged an entire season during my kid's piano recital? i've done that. yeah. i'm binging right now. you know, i think we've made a real breakthrough here today. what? aw, he dies in this episode. introducing binge on. with t-mobile, stream video free without using data from netflix, hbonow, hulu and many more.
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we're being toll that he was the brains behind the operation. >> he's most probably the bomb maker. >> the bomb maker himself. >> yeah. he's alive. so probably he's the one who was the bomb maker because we sea h search -- we need a professional whatever is for the -- >> why do you think he may be the bomb maker? is there evidence? because we are hearing that he may have been the brains behind this. >> yeah, he may be the bomb maker. we don't know exactly. >> this is one of three brothers. >> yes. >> for whom the international arrest warrant is out. >> we also have to be very careful because, you know, they give information bit by bit, and i think it's a good thing. at the same time people are asking for more and more information, and sometimes we do not have time enough to cross because everybody is griping for information, and so we have now -- a big blackboard and pip something like carry medicine --
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>> homeland. >> like that. >> where do you think this person might be? i realize that's, you know, the big question. but is he still in france? there was a huge panic here a couple of hours ago. the whole square emptied for no good reason except that people were panicked. they thought theyed'd heard something. >> i think that before we find the last one some hours ago, we have to cross information, they thought that a guy but still alive somewhere. >> the eighth person, the person who drove the vehicle. >> yes. and we didn't know where he was, you know, so we were affray. and they're also afraid a new wave will come like after charlie then we have others, so maybe they are expecting something. whatever, they are very careful, and i think that we also have to be very careful with that. >> what is cooperation like? this is now french authorities, belgian authorities, greek
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authorities, turkish authorities, european. what is your sense of how that is going? >> they are working a lot. asking for the meeting next week. and i think that the cooperation is good, but at the same time we do not have a common databases for that, and that is always the same story. and unfortunately the time to build take a long time and there is again a gap between the building -- included all the human rights regulations and the private life, privacy, and all those kind of things with pride, serp kind of crossing that time. >> so you told us early today the really game-changing ingredient in this, that one of
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the terrorists was somebody who had infiltrated the refugees and the migrants who came to europe. >> that looks like -- sure. that looks like sure because he came through a network and a connecting itinerary and he get migrant visa. >> special migrant papers in greece. >> because he came with a passport, which looks like -- >> he arrived on october 3rd on the island of leros. >> how do you think he got into france? do you think he came from belgium? >> i don't know exactly. maybe from croatia, belgium, and france. i'm not sure. >> there are a lot of names that are out there. i want to know if you can confirm them to us right now a we speak, okay? >> good thing we take our glasses together. >> okay. ahmad abu mohamed was one of the suicide bombers at the stadium. we have another name here.
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bilal hadfi, born in 1995, living in belgium. he also was one of the suicide bombers in the stadium. do you have that? >> yes. >> is that confirmed? >> i have that. >> mm-hmm. >> we have to wait the d.a. you know, the one in charge of the communication is the d.a. >> but you've been briefed that this is a name. >> i have been told that. >> and the third name? >> the third name is mahmoud al mahmoud. >> my more details on who they are? >> not yet. >> how difficult is this for france and do you expect -- i mean, we talked a little bit about it. do your authorities really expect another wave? >> well, it's better to be careful right now. and the people are also -- at the same time, the life has to go on. i mean, we are not going to stop anything. but, you know, the state of emergency will stay until christmas, included christmas.
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>> that's a long time. >> it's a long time, but i think that we have a cop21. >> thaes ooh the big climate summit coming up with all the world leaders. >> and then i think french people deserve to have peaceful christmastime, so at the same time it would be a good thing to keep this emergency state until then. i think we are going to vote on it. anyway, we have to vote on it after 12 days, so the parliament will have to decide. but i think we will vote, of course. >> thank you very much for everything. >> thank you, senator goulet. >> thank you. >> we're going the take a short break from paris.
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>> infill traitor coming in with the refugees. and bilal hafdi was placed by senator and french officials as one of the stadium suicide bombers as well. >> i want to go to washington and our chris frates joining, with more information. what have you learned? >> reporter: good afternoon from washington, guys. we're learning the fbi plans more wiretaps and closer monitoring to guard against potential threats to the u.s. fbi officials held conference calls over the weekend with state, local, and federal law enforcement to discuss what's being done to monitor known isis sympathizers right here in the united states. much of the fbi is working on that this weekend. it's similar but not as far reaching as the bureau's response to the isis-inspired shooting at a prophet muhammad cartoon contest in texas earlier this year. officials say agents investigating isis supporters have to know where their subjects are and determine if there's any new information that would make them a higher priority. the u.s. is also offering to
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assist the french investigation. deputy national security advisor ben rhodes described that process earlier today. >> in terms of the ongoing investigation, i really will let the french speak to that. what i will say to that, jake, is after incidents like this, they are multifaceted and complex. it's very important to pull every threat you have to make sure there are not accomplices who are still on the loose in part because those people could pose a threat but also frankly because they can help you understand better what happened. right now i'm sure there's a vigorous effort supported by our intelligence sharing to try to identify anybody connected at all with these attackers. >> initial batch of names that could include the attackers or their associates. so far none of those names are known to u.s. authorities as terror suspects and that's disturbing u.s. and counterterrorism officials but u.s. officials point out it's still very early in this investigation and an official pointed out it has been difficult to identify the
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attacker who is blew themselves up. so far officials say it does not appear there are any co-conspirators in the united states connected to this paris attack. officials are concerned about copycat attacks, though, and have increased their scrutiny on suspected isis supporters in the u.s. but officials of course stressing that don't have or know of any specific threats to the united states. christiane, anderson, back to you guys in paris. >> chris, thanks very much. you know, it is very early in this investigation. i mean, things are moving very quickly. >> quite quickly. >> but it's still very early days. >> and the fact is one is still at large and that's a very worrying thing. so we'll have much more. we'll be right back. i know how it is. you're all set to book a flight using your airline credit card miles. and surprise! those seats sometimes cost a ridiculous number of miles, making it really hard to book the flight you want. luckily, there's a better way... with the capital one venture card. with venture, you'll earn unlimited double miles
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refugees fleeing from syria. arwa damon is in greece on the island of leros where that particular terrorist actually landed first on european soil. she joins us now. arwa, and i know just today i'm sure more people have been arriving and i know when we talked to you in the last hour there were people getting ready to go on a ferry to head back to athens to continue their journey to points north, particularly many of them trying to get in germany, sweden, places that have been more welcoming to refugees than actually france has, which is really only admitted a relatively small number compared to the hundreds of thousands who have come through germany. explain the process for somebody. how easy is it for someone who lands on the island of leros or on the island of lesbos where i was a month ago to get process -- how quickly do they get processed and move on? is anyone really able to guarantee who these people are? are they vetted? >> reporter: that really, anderson, is the core of the
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problem, a you yourself would have witnessed on lesbos as so of many us have seen with these masses arrive ong greece's shores, on these various different islands. they come mostly on these barely seaworthy rubber dinghies, so eager to jump off, get to land, and then eventually make their way to these registration centers. all of them know by now they have to get registered, but a lot of them arrive without identification, and even without that, there are people who are there, translators, people of syrian backgrounds who ask them certain questions and try to ascertain as much as they can that they are, in fact, who they claim to be. but bottom line is that actual documentation that cannot be fully verified, and without a centralized database, that doesn't exist anyways, that can't be verified either. the individual's background. after that the ease with which one can purchase a syrian passport in turkey. up to $1,000.anywhere from $600-
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it is relatively speaking fairly easy to try to mix oneself in with these migrants and refugees who are coming across because the influx in the numbers means perhaps not everyone can be as adequately vetted as is necessary. the great fear, though, right now at this stage is that the backlash, because of what happened in paris, is going to reflect itself on this refugee problem -- on this refugee population, people who are so desperate, anderson. in talking to some of those tonight that were moving on to the greek mainland yes, they are concerned, they are worried about how this is going to end up impacting their own quest for a better future, at least that's what they hope they're going to be able to get. but it doesn't necessarily come as a huge surprise to anyone within the intelligence community who's been watching this refugee flow taking place or anyone who's been reporting on it. invariably at some point in
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time, isis, isis sympathizers, other extremists were going to capitalize and exploit the situation. the problem and the challenge right now, though, is not too allow it to cause an even bigger risk to take place, to cause an even bigger rejection of these refugees because that will play straight into isis' hands. >> arwa, appreciate your reporting on leros. it's interesting, when i was on lesbos last month, greek officials were so overwhelmed, they were not even -- they were fingerprinting people but fingerprinting them onto paper. it wasn't done electronically so it wasn't being entered into any kind of database that could be easily accessed. >> no. it's a really difficult situation. we've got our senior national security correspondent jim sciutto with us because we've all been asking what is going to be the response. our leaders have been saying redouble the effort against isis, destroy, disrupt them. what are you learning? >> we're hearing to a major barrage of air strikes under way
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on the city of raqqah, in syria, the stronghold of isis in syria, and the french president has effectively called isis out, not only isis at large but he has said that there appear to be coordination between these attackers and isis back home. organizations on the ground reporting some 30 air strikes just in the last several hours. it's the early morning hours in raqqah now. and our barbara starr is reporting that the u.s. had provided intelligence to france to help them carry out and target areas inside raqqah following these attacks. >> these are french air strikes? >> these include french air strikes as well. it is something as christiane had said, we were looking for what their response would be, and they asked for help in terps of intelligence, and the u.s. offered that help, and that appears to be what we're seeing over raqqah right now. >> how viable are targets? how easy is it to find targets? that was early on in the bombing campaign, that was one of theish, shoos of i don't ever finding actual targets that
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would make sense to hit. >> one, finding targets that make sense to hit but also finding targets where you minimize civilian casualties. that's one reason isis is hiding there, they can hide in the open monk civilians. syrian being slaugtered deeply, websites, a humanitarian group on the ground which will chronicle these attacks. they've been reporting some of the things hit a stadium, they say that a clink was hit as well. no way for us to confirm that, that a political building. so it's quite a variety. presumably they had intelligence to say these were tied to isis. >> i think something that we're going to obviously watch, i mean, we've seen air campaigns over the years, some have finished war, some have simply not. we've seen that this allied coalition air campaign against isis which has been going on for a year and a half now has not finished the job by any stretch of the imagination. >> not at all. >> what will it take? i think that's -- if they carpet bomb syria or the isis strongholds or if they do what the turks are basically saying,
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what many in the region are saying that, yes, air strikes but that's not the way a you're going to actually destroy these insurgents on the ground. >> we've seen a perfect demonstration of that in the last 48 hours. friday morning we were reporting significant kill of jihadi john via a drone strike in raqqah. yet the same day you have an attack carried out like this year. yesterday a significant strike killing nabil, a significant isis leader in libya. yet you're still dealing with, you know, the aftereffects of 132 dead on the streets of paris, right? so it gets to a larger question. is the decapitation strategy working? does it have an effect on isis operations? and is a what is largely an air campaign working? and you had those comments on friday from the president. he said abc, they've been contained. granted he was talking about contained in terms of the land that they occupy in iraq and syria, speaking about isis, but clearly the problem and the terror threat from isis has not been contained. in the last week we've seen it extend far beyond iraq and
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syria. sn >> and it is so worrying because of what we're seeing here played out as you keep reporting and we're talking about the investigation, the people who are being chased down, the arrest warrant. it's this multiheaded hydrathat as one of our guests told us it is amazing what she told us. problem is all these people who are going over there, who have been radicalized and going over then coming back here. she said that she is suing the french government to make a point that why are they allowing at borders and various other place where is police should be stopping people, minors traveling without parents, without permission, without luggage, with one-way tickets to turkey and then off they go to syria? and this is a major problem as you said. you know, the virus is coming through the internet. it's coming through online, the radicalization, and that's what's such a challenge. >> the best information about this attack is that you had both local and foreign elements. that you had this one attacker who appeared to have come through that channel, but the
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fact is there were other attackers from the south of paris, right? so you still had attackers who it was not necessary for them to sneak into the country so it's not a simple solution. >> i'm also sbrelsed to learn how somebody who's just recently come, who snuck in with the refugee, how they link up with those who are already here, living here for many year, whether they're french citizens livinging in belgium as some were or elsewhere and learning that connection is obviously one thing investigators are going to be trying to find pout. >> the sad fact is there are active jihadi networks in france and belgium, extending beyond the borders of these countries and extending back to syria. they're watching them as closely as they can, but they can't catch everything. >> and before we go to a break, we have to say we're getting a lot of interaction from many groups, and many, you know, muslim, many moderate muslims, many mainstream muslims, people who are the vast majority of that religion and those nationalities living all over our countries have condemned
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what happened, have nothing to do with isis, don't want anything to do with isis don't want to be tainted by isis. >> the biggest victims of isis, wlit's sunni or shia, more muslims are being kild more than anybody else. >> and the tragedy is these refugees are fleeing 20 times what's happening here in paris. you know, this relentless sleighter. >> and you worry about the political effects of that. this is a politically sensitive issue. there are opponents to the refugee influx who are who will and already are glomming onto this as a justification to shut the borders forever when you know there are many, the vast majority who are in need, fleeing the conflict. >> short break. we'll have more when we come back. the future belongs to the fast. and to help you accelerate, we've created a new company... one totally focused on
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anderson cooper with christiane amanpour in the plaza de la republique. some of what we've been witnessing for the last several hours and throughout the day, thousands of people coming in. here you see some candles that have been set in a kind of circle, people are leaving notes and flowers. one of the memorials, many memorials that have sprung up in the last several days throughout paris. >> and actually, you know, important to say that this whole place was emptied several hours ago because there was a panic. nothing happened but everybody
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thought something bad was happening. somebody thought there was a shooter out here tnd it was the herd stampeded out of this square so fast we couldn't believe it. in any event, they're pack. we have nick paton walsh who is in irbil. we have breaking news from syria we've been reporting from jim sciutto and other where is dozens of air strikes have been carried out in the isis stronghold of raqqah. nick, you are in irbil. there's been a lot of movement against isis in some of the areas there. what do you know about what's going on now? >> well, christiane, we are hearing both from a dependable organization inside of raqqah and also in up with hour alone there have been 30 air strikes against raqqah. now, the precise locations
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aren't entirely clear now, but raqqah -- a hospital, political building, to benchpotentially a that have been hit. i mention those names because since isis has taken over that may have changed entirely in carc trysting what though buildings do. of course we've seen air strikes like this similar in the past, seen so many air strikes against raqqah but of course typing question and i think has many wondering whether this is in relation to paris or maybe those who have been observing isis targets inside of raqqah in the past few hours have noticed targets of opportunity. but there has been an extraordinary uptick in the last hour and of course the question now, does this extend to a broad campaign against that particular city or are we simply talking about one night in which there has been an accelerated pace of
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coalition air strikes and who, too, is doing the bombing, christiane. >> also, nick, in terms of what's going on in iraq, you're in irbil in a kurdish-controlled area. how does this world look up in the area where you are up in the north against isis? >> reporter: certainly up peer we saw in the last 32 hours an extraordinarily swift of the peshmerga against isis. they have been expected to spend potentially days fighting in the town of sinjar. their victory there occurred with remarkable speed. they had spent about 24 hours it seemed probing and suddenly moved in from the north with remarkable speed. minimal resistance, but it was pretty much done within about 48 hours. that was largely down to the volume peshmerga sent at that particular time and also coalition air strikes evident in the sky.
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the question you have to ask yourself now is so much of the rhetoric we have heard about the strategic goal for the sinjar attack but about moving towards raqqah. the sinjar attack cut off a main highway between raqqah and syria and major isis strongholds and in iraq another major isis stronghold. is this series of air strike strikes against raqqah a part of what may be part of a broader strategy, which is to try and isolate raqqah and potentially move in pro western forces who may be able to work the kurdish, the predominant force in the north of syria or are we dealing with an isolated incident. it's been hard to define moments in which the coalition to peers to have set isis' clock back in terms of taking more territory. the taking of sinjar, they were able to do something different
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than maybe using the coalition airpower to impact the ability for large numbers on the ground to turn around isis' hold of the territory. we simply have to see quite exactly what has happened in the last hour or so and what we can do with the borders to the west to take what isis has there. >> okay. >> nick paton walsh. nick, thank you very much. more in a moment. i'm there for bessie. i'm there for ray. ted loved baseball. dr. phil likes to watch football. renne, who wants sloppy joe on the menu every day. rosie's my best friend. evelyn likes to dance. harriett wants her fried shrimp as well. alice anne likes vanilla ice cream with chocolate syrup and rainbow sprinkles. they give me so much back. i can't even imagine how i could possibly give them what they give me. i was on the bus and i couldn't stop streaming.
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. welcome back to the program. we're here, anderson cooper and simon cooper to talk about these strikes that have been going on, particularly the french now confirming that they have been conducting ramped up air strikes against the isis strong hold
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raqqa in syria because of what happened here and being directly linked to isis. simon cooper was in the stadium, anderson, when these bombs went off, suicide attacks went off on friday night. first describe what you felt there and then -- >> were you aware right away something was wrong? >> i was aware something was wrong. 20 minutes into the game we heard a loud explosion. play continued and there was cheering and people thought i think it was fireworks. >> people light off fireworks in the games here. >> yeah. and i thought it's too loud for that. then about three minutes later, another loud explosion and the ground shook a bit. i went online to look for news, in reporting for 20 minutes. game continues and france scores and people cheer. what we now know that should have been an enormous, the plan for the terrorists was enormous carnage inside the stadium and
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that failed. >> that was their goal. the attack was a failure at the stadium from the terrorist's vantage point. >> we know one suicide bomber had a ticket was trying to get in. the stew ard saw he was wearing a suicide vest and the terrorist took a step back and blew himself up outside the stadium. the other two blew themselves up outside the stadium. the security perhaps was tougher than they thought. they only killed one other person other than themselves and prime time tv. >> the aim was to do it because this was being televised, they were trying to get in there and blow up as many people and the french president was there. >> this was a huge match. the biggest match that's france was playing all year, world champions germany. stadium was full and prime time tv in france and germany. the aim was to cause mass carnage with three bombs. then what would happen, everyone would stampede to the exits.
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>> that's also the question, if only one of them had a ticket and we don't, maybe others had tickets as well, if they had ticket and the other two -- even if they hadn't gotten in couldn't debt nature their devices as people fled. >> that is very possible, yes. >> not only did they not do that inside, thank god, but they blew themselves up, i don't know, it seems to me it wasn't very powerful because they didn't kill anybody, one person was killed. >> and yet it was powerful enough that people inside the stadium like yourself heard it. >> it was powerful. i was speaking to a terrorism expert and she says these attacks are very hard to plan. of course, all suicide bombers are novices. there's a very high incompetentance factor. they didn't execute well and the world only found out 20 minutes to a half hour later. >> it's interesting what would have -- that authorities did not
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announce that there was an issue within the stadium until -- was the game over or did they ever announce it? >> they didn't. at the end of the game they said they are having incidents outside. at that point, everyone with their phones had worked that out and people were afraid of going home. i think authorities found out when they worked out what happened, they probably thought we don't want to release 80,000 people into a city which was at war at that point. so we're going to keep them in the stadium and not going to tell anyone. the players weren't told either. >> the german team ended up sleeping in the stadium that night. >> they sat in the changing room for hours and many of the flench flayers sat with them out of solidarity. german players der s terrified >> one of the main pieces of news, one of the come kaz zi attackers at that stadium was somebody who had infiltrated the refugees and had come to europe
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good evening, i'm erin burnett, i want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world this afternoon and this evening. air strikes underway right now on isis strongholds in raqqa, syria, we're hearing the city is getting pounded. we understand french planes are leading -- all are french involved in the air strikes. let's start with our senior international correspondent nick paton walsh in erbil. what do we know about these strikes? >> reporter: it is a strange moment to hear isis news agency themselves agree on the fact there have been about 20 to 30 strikes in the period of about an hour hitting what they

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